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Name this ARESTI figure

Discussion in 'IMAC>>>Aircraft, Techniques, Equipment, etc.' started by orthobird, Mar 27, 2016.

   
  1. orthobird

    orthobird 150cc

    can anyone describe this?

    bow tie question.jpg
     
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  2. TazmanianDevil

    TazmanianDevil Xtreme by DeFinition !

    bow tie....half bow tie.
    Or if you want to outsmart, a lay down necktie.
     
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  3. orthobird

    orthobird 150cc

    Hello Adi, thank you
    I was more questioning the numbering.

    It looks different to me, I had never seen 4, then half curved arrow, depicting a half roll, and then 2/4

    that threw me off.

    This is posted in the IMAC website, under practice unknowns.

    Best regards

    Cam
     
  4. jamesrxx951

    jamesrxx951 100cc

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    Cam, it appears to be a roll and 1/2 with 6 stopping points. If you notice you enter upright and exit inverted. With a 4 point roll you exit upright but the the additional 2 points of the roll you are inverted. I cannot say i have seen this before though.

    The other roll element is similar but it is an 8 point roll. I guess it does make sense though because you will not have more than 2 consecutive rolls in an element. Whole lot of rolling. That figure would be big for sure.
     
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  5. orthobird

    orthobird 150cc

    turns out, it is old school, from 2006, back in the day. the nomenclature was such, that they first stated what kind of a roll it would be, and 4 depicts a 4 point roll, 8 depicts an 8 point roll, 2 would be a 2 point roll, then the short curved arrow, which does not cross the line, indicates it is a half roll, or anything less than a full roll.
    then, after the curved arrow, there is another set of numbers, 2/4 or 4/8
    which, means 2 out of 4 points in a 360 roll, which would be 180 degrees total, divided in 2, which means, rotate 90 degrees, pause, rotate 90 degrees, stop.

    the 4/8, same thing: rotate 45 degrees, pause, another 45, pause, another 45, pause, and the last 45. total rotation is 180 degrees.

    now, the nomenclature, which I am accustomed to seeing in the Aresti, is this:

    2 x 4

    or

    4 x 8

    best regards

    Cam
     

  6. TazmanianDevil

    TazmanianDevil Xtreme by DeFinition !

    Oh sorry wasn't focused on that.
    Well I guess they're not using that system anymore.

    From what I see it's an 8 point roll and then same direction 4 of 8.
    The same method with the other line.
     
  7. Judge

    Judge 70cc twin V2

    I am not a fan of naming figures. I just call them as they are written, less chance for confusion.

    From inverted pull to 45 downline
    Center 2 of 4 on downline
    Pull vertical
    Pull 135 to 45 downline
    Center 4 of 8 on downline
    Exit positive
     
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  8. Pistolera

    Pistolera HEY!..GET OUTTA MY TREE!

    If ya'll are talking about the rolls....it comes from full scale notations and means 2/4ths of a 4 point roll, and 4/8ths of an 8 point roll. At least that's my take on it as we used to write them like that.

    As for the figure itself I've called them a bow tie or a double sharks tooth.
     
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  9. Robotech

    Robotech 70cc twin V2

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    Since the OP's title says "name that figure" I say we name it the Ortho Formal. (formal as in bow-tie formal)
     
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  10. I'll go ahead and call that the "Inverted Entry Half Bow Tie from the top with 2 of 4 centered on the 45 down, pull to vertical, nothing on the up and pull to inverted 45 down with 4 of 8 centered on the down and pull to exit at the baseline"

    :cheers:
     
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